part of me is saying "CRUSH THEM AND BREAK THEM AND GRIND THERE BONES TO DUST!!!" and the calm side of me is saying "yeah listen to the angry side of yourself cause them buggers more than deserve it"
Holydude said: part of me is saying "CRUSH THEM AND BREAK THEM AND GRIND THERE BONES TO DUST!!!" and the calm side of me is saying "yeah listen to the angry side of yourself cause them buggers more than deserve it"
potatotomato said: Feel awful... Want to kill those villager. Even though it is just a image.
Lick_King said: I feel sick in the head and heart. Can't even describe what's crawling inside me after seeing this.
Twinmill said: I think I just died alittle inside because half the stuff with the cum_inside tag is this to some extent.
Flame_the_Fox said: Man that just...
Wow. Shit. That really. REALLY doesn't sit well in my stomach. Like seriously. I feel sick right now.
Heparine said: Envy is a horrible thing, isn't it...
It's not envy. Maybe you won't understand us, but it's not envy. It's....It's...."Soul-crushed Rage"!! That's right. We are angry because this scene is too sad.
You mean there's nothing sad about people being so easily flustered about imaginary events that are themselves imaginary to the imaginary world they're based off of?
Oh, go and feel whatever you must feel, but I don't think going on a witch hunt or having your emotions played so easily is wise.
I don't like the fact that a favorite character of mine is depicted being violated, but that doesn't mean I go around raging about so and so content. Simply put, it's silly.
Touy said: You mean there's nothing sad about people being so easily flustered about imaginary events that are themselves imaginary to the imaginary world they're based off of?
Oh, go and feel whatever you must feel, but I don't think going on a witch hunt or having your emotions played so easily is wise.
I don't like the fact that a favorite character of mine is depicted being violated, but that doesn't mean I go around raging about so and so content. Simply put, it's silly.
It's kind of like this; whether it's real or not isn't the important point, it's more of the reaction it illicits. To be fair you could argue that it's having one's emotions played upon, and while that is true, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Think of grave of the fireflies; basically it's the other side of the WWII story we're taught in class. Real or not, imaginary or not, for the sake of the story, it would be more than unusual not to have some kind of emotional reaction taking place. To deny having any emotions is to be less than human would you not think (sociopaths etc.)?
I dont get why people over react so much to this. Or why is it even tagged rape.
She goes there willingly, to give sex in exanchange of being able to perform. Also she already done it before. She may "not want to do it" but in the end she is accepting it. They are not forcing it, if she wants to perform then she does it. It's not really rape when there is choice. I find it sad only that they need to do this to get a concert.
Oh my, looking back at this, I feel rather embarrassed at some of the comments I made up there. Guess I should delete some....
JesusK said: She goes there willingly, to give sex in exanchange of being able to perform. Also she already done it before. She may "not want to do it" but in the end she is accepting it. They are not forcing it, if she wants to perform then she does it. It's not really rape when there is choice. I find it sad only that they need to do this to get a concert.
Put that way, perhaps, but I think what she's accepting is the fact that she must sell her body for being allowed to perform rather than the sex itself. Granted, it's not normal rape since there's a choice as you said, but in the picture she shows clear unwillingness and begs the men to stop. I've known similar things happen in real life, and they were definitely considered rape rather than prostitution.
As for why we showed strong reactions to depicted atrocities, I'd say, for the same reason as we're soothed by heart-warming stories and tearful at sad stories. (Ugh, I'm still weak with aesthetic epistemology.) Ande made good points about it. Whether it's real or fiction isn't important when something causes emotions in us, and feeling those emotions isn't silly or childish. Obviously, not feeling them much is also normal.
I always say this: when there is a difference in opinions which are both respectable, not agreeing is normal, not understanding the other opinion is fine, criticizing whatever faults the other opinion may have is good, but that's the border. Debasing the other is going overboard.
Lick_King said: As for why we showed strong reactions to depicted atrocities, I'd say, for the same reason as we're soothed by heart-warming stories and tearful at sad stories. (Ugh, I'm still weak with aesthetic epistemology.) Ande made good points about it. Whether it's real or fiction isn't important when something causes emotions in us, and feeling those emotions isn't silly or childish. Obviously, not feeling them much is also normal.
I always say this: when there is a difference in opinions which are both respectable, not agreeing is normal, not understanding the other opinion is fine, criticizing whatever faults the other opinion may have is good, but that's the border. Debasing the other is going overboard.
Oh but i am aware of the whole point of drawing/real doesnt matter, even drawings many times get further than real when expresing feelings and such. But for me at least it makes it harder to feel sorry for her, when its forced prostitution. She always has a choice but she is in a tight spot and uses the only tool she has to get the concert. It may or may not be sad but i feel there is too much reaction on this one, compared to other content with real rape, murders and such.
JesusK said: It may or may not be sad but i feel there is too much reaction on this one, compared to other content with real rape, murders and such.
You aren't wrong there. Things rarely happen for no reason, so I guess there was something else that attracted more outbursts of emotion than others. Like, the irony of Merlin and Lyrica being oblivious to what Lunasa really is doing when she goes to the village to "have some complicated discussions". I won't - can't - make conclusions about whether the reaction here is "too much" as you say, but I can understand there being 'more' reactions than other images with real rape and such.
Regarding "real" rape actually, you'd know that most of the rape images we see around are supposed to be sexually appeasing. Kind of numbs people to what horrific a sin rape is. When a real depiction of rape and its affliction to the victim is given, people usually react strongly to those images as well. Like post #547229 and its child posts.
Keo said: Wow...this thing is so sad. Its those stories that suppose to portray something happy yet it gives you such a painful feeling in your stomach....
Yes. Reproduction is 'happy'. Though when forcibly exerted on a near defenseless girl, between a group of men, is a bit evil. And this is one of the first true representations of real rape. Provided, when you said it was supposed to be happy, you were referring to the to-be performance? Yes it would have been, and such previous blocks in the comic strip were very light-hearted. Although then....
But it can't be happy now. You actually will feel so much different if you avert your perspective to the victim instead of the criminal (yes, technically you are entering the POV of a criminal in these kinds of pics if you think what most people do). Regrettably, I also found these to be extremely arousing. My position is firm though. When your friends constantly yell "rape!" or something (if you live in America, you are used to this) think about what it really represents, and if you have the voice, try to stop them from saying it so carelessly. Its not funny, and its a serious issue.
Wrongs will never be righted if you never speak out against them. Being a complacent sheep never made anything better.
It's not silly to be angry about things you care about being defiled. It's the correct response for anyone who's not dead inside and you've been fooled into a complacent state by the logic fallacies of those who wish to see these things continue. It doesn't matter whether they exist or not and you can't make an argument for why it would matter.
Now quit biting into that shit-sandwich and telling us it tastes great.
Sankosa said: For some reason, I find that, in a way, (albeit a somewhat twisted way) it's very touching that Lunasa would go to such lengths to help her sisters.
Touching with a big dose of saddening. Like those bittersweet endings from a game you finished
You mean there's nothing sad about people being so easily flustered about imaginary events that are themselves imaginary to the imaginary world they're based off of?
Oh, go and feel whatever you must feel, but I don't think going on a witch hunt or having your emotions played so easily is wise.
I don't like the fact that a favorite character of mine is depicted being violated, but that doesn't mean I go around raging about so and so content. Simply put, it's silly.
Come to think of it, when I tried to go with her last time, she said I couldn't. I wonder why?It was nice of you, Lunasa. You took place of your sisters all the timeN-No!!She said she was going to meet with people from the village to negotiate a venue for our next live performance today, remember?Hmmm, well, it's meeting with humans. They must have some complicated discussions, don't you think?Oh, well. It's thanks to Lunasa that we can have our live at the village every time.Indeed! We have to show our gratitude to her. ♪Morning! Hey, where's Lunasa?Oh, that's right.Yes...Y...Oh, good morning! Lunasa has been out since early this morning.Oh shit! I came inside Lunasa-chan!Just tell us when you want to have a live in the village anytime
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