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  • ID: 12123923
  • Uploader: jiji Kiki »
  • Date: about 2 months ago
  • Approver: Placeholder1996 »
  • Size: 1.07 MB .jpg (3151x4096) »
  • Source: x.com/Bonnymama7/status/2095191933119537617 »
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petra parker and green goblin (marvel and 1 more) drawn by bonnymama7

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    Lyla the tired siren
    about 2 months ago
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    Making ol' Gobby look especially hateable this time around. Though the one guy I think of when I think of which Spidey villains would actually be transphobic is Simon Krieger.

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    jiji Kiki
    29 days ago
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    JJJ is an ally, at least.
    https://x.com/Bonnymama7/status/2097364123323703779/

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    AlsoSprachOdin
    29 days ago
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    Lyla_the_tired_siren said in comment #2627950:

    Making ol' Gobby look especially hateable this time around.

    Nevermind when he committed actual murders, I guess. Really illustrates the priorities here.
    But as usual, this is a straw-man: No one is opposed to transsexual policies on the basis that they think trans are "freaks", rather it's on basis of the inadequacy of the current technology, post-op suicide rates AND exactly the attitude of the trans ideology behind this kind of straw-man dishonesty and messed-up priorities.

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    genericUsernam
    13 days ago
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    AlsoSprachOdin said in comment #2633200:

    Nevermind when he committed actual murders, I guess. Really illustrates the priorities here.
    But as usual, this is a straw-man: No one is opposed to transsexual policies on the basis that they think trans are "freaks", rather it's on basis of the inadequacy of the current technology, post-op suicide rates AND exactly the attitude of the trans ideology behind this kind of straw-man dishonesty and messed-up priorities.

    gobby is especially hateable in this because bigotry is a much more personal evil

    it's the same rational as behind the quote "one is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" or why bully characters tend to be more hated than the mass murdering big bad, there is a farther disconnect between the latter in both cases than what people experience day to day so we have a harder time putting ourselves in the shoes of someone in that universe and feeling the weight of those crimes

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    AlsoSprachOdin
    12 days ago
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    genericUsernam said in comment #2638013:

    gobby is especially hateable in this because bigotry is a much more personal evil

    Yes it's easier to hate like this, and that is exactly the problem - that this drawing incites hate: It represents those with opposing opinions as straw men, in this case as murderous and monstrous-looking villains with easily countered non-arguments (Green Goblin here certainly isn't saying the sort of stuff I'm saying). The artist represents the opposition in a way that is particularly easy to HATE, perpetuating the sort of cycle of hatred that we've all been taught since forever to avoid, which (ironically) in itself is an extremely clear case of bigotry.
    What we should instead be doing is discussing the matter with actual argumentation. Right? Instead of trying to hide the arguments with downvotes.

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    FRien
    12 days ago
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    AlsoSprachOdin said in comment #2638284:

    Yes it's easier to hate like this, and that is exactly the problem - that this drawing incites hate: It represents those with opposing opinions as straw men, in this case as murderous and monstrous-looking villains with easily countered non-arguments (Green Goblin here certainly isn't saying the sort of stuff I'm saying). The artist represents the opposition in a way that is particularly easy to HATE, perpetuating the sort of cycle of hatred that we've all been taught since forever to avoid, which (ironically) in itself is an extremely clear case of bigotry.
    What we should instead be doing is discussing the matter with actual argumentation. Right? Instead of trying to hide the arguments with downvotes.

    I mean, not like comics are renowned for their subtle writing. If a character is a villain, he'll do villain stuff just to be hateable and make the readers hate him.
    It's basic storytelling: to make people root for the hero (even if the hero is a monster, a loser or, and may Ptah forgive me for uttering that word, an Englishman), make the villain so vile that nobody will ever take his side.

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    AlsoSprachOdin
    12 days ago
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    FRien said in comment #2638299:
    I mean, not like comics are renowned for their subtle writing.

    All the more reason to try harder when writing comics.

    FRien said in comment #2638299:
    make the villain so vile that nobody will ever take his side.

    Unfortunately, here he is used to represent a real political position, which makes this comic propaganda. Even if he represented posadism or anarcho-nihilism I'd still want him to use their actual arguments. I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with it if instead he represented the more "unsubtle" position that recreational murder is okay.

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